Brenner M. Fissell
6/16/2021 03:55:34 pm
“ A military commander must have legal authority over those in a unit. In the military, a commander can order a subordinate to take an action that may result in his or her own death. With the responsibility to prepare and send troops into battle must come the authority. The two must be inseparable. To strip a commander of the authority to make a disciplinary decision undermines the very ability to command. This should not be done lightly.”
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6/16/2021 07:00:26 pm
Fair point, Brenner. From my experience, I suggest that the connection is more nuanced than order obedience *disappearing* with prosecutorial discretion. Troops would still follow orders, and they would still have an obligation to do so. The concern (at least, mine anyway...and it seems that Jeh would agree based on his analysis) is that the loss of prosecutorial discretion inhibits the commander's ability to *shape* the command climate. Army Chairman Gen. McConville recently described this as the "secret sauce" of command - and I think that's a fairly apt description (then-MG McConville was my division commander in Afghanistan, I should probably note in full disclosure).
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Brenner M. Fissell
6/17/2021 01:53:44 pm
Brian: how do you answer the following charge? 6/17/2021 07:04:22 pm
(responding to Brenner, but had to reply to my own comment because we've reached the end of the comment tree)
Former DC
6/18/2021 11:07:47 am
I genuinely appreciate the robust discussion on this topic, but I'd suggest that this all rests far too heavily on the legal fiction that the only link between good order and discipline is a court martial.
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6/18/2021 12:00:59 pm
And, from what we hear from our international colleagues, there does not seem to have been any breakdown in GoD from the changes.
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