I admire Prof. Dunlap for going to the heart of the matter and not dithering around the edges. He writes: "The complex process of leading servicemembers to wage war in the name of state is a task that requires equipping the chain of command with disciplinary power as thousands of years of military history demonstrates that the coercive effect of that authority is one element of what is necessary to get people to do what is ordinarily unthinkable: to kill other human beings (or be part of the process that does so). " Note how strong this claim is--not that the personal unified authority helps with or adds to the coercive toolbox, but that it is necessary to it. This claim is the foundation of everything, but is it correct? Prof. Dunlap fails to cite to or address the scholarship that has interrogated this precise question and has come to the opposite conclusion. See, e.g., Elizabeth L. Hillman, On Unity: A Commentary on Discipline, Justice, and Command in the U.S. Military: Maximizing Strengths and Minimizing Weaknesses in a Special Society, 50 New Eng. L. Rev. (2015): "History and social science can help us assess the claim that a command structure 'reinforced by the ability to impose punishment' is essential for a military unit to perform well under stress. Studies in those fields suggest that service members follow orders because of social and ethical norms more than command authority, that discipline is as much an internal practice than an external system of punishment, and that the chaos of a battlefield may actually be the environment in which individuals' behavior is least likely to be influenced by an authoritarian commander." (citing Mark J. Osiel, Obeying Orders: Atrocity, Military Discipline, and the Law of War, 86 CALIF. L. REV. 939, 1026-27 & nn.343-44 (1998)).
Isaac Kennen
7/27/2021 06:39:54 pm
Speaking to Professor Fidell's argument that it is essential that lawyers handle the disposition of felony-level offenses.
Brenner Fissell
7/27/2021 07:35:57 pm
Zeke, 7/28/2021 01:20:53 pm
Brenner,
Nathan Freeburg
7/27/2021 08:02:01 pm
I’d really love to see a defense of how plea negotiations work in the military under the current system. (Good luck…they primarily work to waste the time of the lawyers.)
Concerned Citizen
7/27/2021 09:06:59 pm
I don't find the expertise argument persuasive at all. The commanders all have s lawyer on staff to advise them on the various technical aspects of the case. Also, I don't think I have ever seen or heard of a referral decision or non decision that actually turned on some genuinely technical decision, like admissibility if evidence; it's usually something obvious like witness credibility that a lay person can judge.
Recovering SJA
7/27/2021 10:24:27 pm
As a lawyer who has advised and works closely with Commanders, I can tell you they aren’t qualified to make the decisions, and they don’t have the bandwidth to make solid, evidence based decisions. Often they make decisions based on their belief about how their career will be impacted, not on what the evidence in a case requires. It’s why so many cases go forward on weak evidence or without probable cause. Not to mention the fact that they are making decisions about their employees, which makes them far from independent, neutral, and fair.
Isaac Kennen
7/28/2021 09:52:03 am
Anecdotal evidence is of little value to the discussion since we all have experience with commanders of varying degrees of competence. For every poor decision-maker in command or in a judge advocate’s billet, there is a brilliant officer to build a counter-narrative around.
Recovering SJA
7/28/2021 12:15:09 pm
My experiences are all I have to go on. I’m not aware of any research or data that show a Commander adds value, I’m just aware that a Commander has other considerations than justice when making decisions. Independence is usually central to a justice system, it’s part of the reason the President isn’t supposed to weigh in on specific cases at the DOJ. I don’t think the military is exceptional in this respect, rather I believe Commanders inject impermissible or unjust motivations into the system.
Scott
7/30/2021 05:01:48 am
The DAC-IPAD report would suggest that the data is in line with “Recovering SJA’s” experience.
Bill Cassara
7/29/2021 12:50:08 pm
I have not opined on this issue, because I don't think it matters much. Lawyers are pretty much calling the shots anyway. It isn't like commanders are routinely declining prosecution on cases that lawyers want to take to trial or even vice versa. Congress and the media make it seem like lawyers have no role in deciding which cases go to trial under the current system, which is false.
Allan
7/29/2021 01:22:22 pm
IMHO, there are two separate and distinct issues. First, what does a commander need to do to ensure good order and discipline (or as Dunlap puts it, ensure that servicemembers will go out and fight)? Second, what does society need to do to ensure that (non-military-type) crimes are addressed appropriately?
Victim Advocate
7/29/2021 01:49:33 pm
I suspect that a Commander’s primary concern is to be able to fight/employ the ship. But what does that mean? From a shipboard perspective, that means you want to keep the sailor that runs the work center, that is qualified to stand a watch that only one other individual is qualified to stand, that is the number 1 trainer or expert on certain pieces of equipment because the Chief is useless. Or the sailor is a chief who keeps a division together. But then, that sailor is accused of sexual assault. Now there’s a victim. Art. 6b, the Manual for Court-Martial, and a number of instructions require the command to grant the victim a military protective order, separate the offender from the victim, for the victim’s welfare. The victim and offender are in the same shop, so the offender is transferred TAD out of the division. Now that entire division is disrupted. The top trainer, watchstander, go-to guy is facing criminal charges. Suppose that watchstander is the only qualified EPCC or EOOW…Now the ship can’t get underway. The CO has to inform the ISIC that he can’t get underway because he has failed to qualify for watchstanders. These are a COs primary concerns: how do I effectively employ my ship? 7/29/2021 03:05:35 pm
Responding to the portion of the editor's note citing this study finding: "History and social science can help us assess the claim that a command structure 'reinforced by the ability to impose punishment' is essential for a military unit to perform well under stress."
Former DC
7/30/2021 08:46:28 am
I have seen no argument that Commanders should lose their authority to: (1) act as an accuser if they think an offense has been committed; (2) utilize non-judicial punishment; or (3) take administrative action to preserve good order an discipline. 7/30/2021 02:16:43 pm
Meh. Comments are closed.
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