11/17/2021 05:01:13 pm
Never any accountability for criminal dereliction.
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Anon
11/17/2021 05:24:17 pm
Brian: Were I aiming to create a cadre of uniformed lawyers who were reflexively obedient to authority, immediately defensive in response to the most minor criticism of authority, and--in service of all this--willing to rely on the most bland technicalities, even in the face of tragic human carnage, I would view the collection of your recent comments as representing the greatest achievement of my indoctrination program. Your rationalizations ring utterly hollow to any person with a shred of empathy for his fellow man.
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11/17/2021 05:33:53 pm
Ah, thank you. You could call it all those things - or you could call it basic familiarity with the law of armed conflict. Thanks again, Anon - surely you're a true patriot!
Anon
11/17/2021 05:44:13 pm
Ah, and so you have tipped your hand, Brian. "Patriotism." Us vs. Them, and we can do no wrong. If the US is ever attacked, we should all hope that there is not a lawyer on their side invoking "patriotism" in service of the bombing of innocents. 11/17/2021 06:03:36 pm
Interesting read on patriotism there, Anon. 11/17/2021 11:22:59 pm
Thank goodness that empathy for our fellow man and an understanding of the law of armed conflict are not mutually exclusive. It’s possible to both abhor the loss of innocent life and recognize that civilian harm is an unfortunate but inevitable byproduct of armed conflict.
David Bargatze
11/18/2021 01:53:15 pm
Professor Cox,
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11/18/2021 04:14:44 pm
David (if I may?),
Nathan Freeburg
11/17/2021 05:05:55 pm
As others, have noted, the LOAC is far more permissive than most civilians realize. And there is a wide gap in the LOAC between “perhaps inadvisable” and “criminal.”
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Anon - II
11/18/2021 01:50:05 pm
Brian
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11/18/2021 04:27:52 pm
Anon - II,
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11/18/2021 04:38:06 pm
Anon - II,
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11/18/2021 04:19:30 pm
Everyone: thank you for engaging in this discussion -- I mean that with all seriousness, as my fear is that folks will think there really is nothing to see here (generic belief being that we beat ISIS and civilians had to die in the process because ISIS put them in harms' way; our military is the most careful in the world, move along everyone; or more insidiously, as implied by CENTCOM's wkd statement -- these 60plus ISIS family members likely weren't really civilians, because some of them may have been armed, so 500 lb bombs on women & kids = good strike).
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11/18/2021 05:12:20 pm
One clarification. It is my understanding that LtCol Korsak did NOT go to the NYT. That appears to be part of his well crafted LinkedIn post. For him to clarify that he only used authorized channels.
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Rachel E VanLandingham
11/19/2021 10:55:50 pm
Good point, Phil, he focused on going to IG and SASC, apparently.
Poster
11/22/2021 09:19:37 am
This is the kind of story and discussion that tells us to look ahead to the next conflict. I think that was Anon's point. I is going to be very bloody wit high estimated loss of life in the opening days.
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